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Baking soda

Baking soda taken with water has been used for shortness of breath. However, it is not always well tolerated, and it is possible to have an adverse reaction. Be sure not to confuse baking powder with baking soda.

It is not dangerous, but it tastes appalling and can make you want to retch. It can make some people nauseous when it hits their stomach and a few suffer an upset stomach or diarrhoea when they take it.

Dr. Folland, Times Online

In one study it was found to slow progression of chronic kidney disease for those patients who could tolerate it.1 In this study, the patients were given very small doses (600 mg) of oral sodium bicarbonate tablets daily for two years. (600 mg is a just little over 1/2 a gram. A very small amount considering some athletes are reported as taking multiple grams prior to events.)

Other names for baking soda

  • sodium bicarbonate
  • sodium hydrogen carbonate
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Olmesartan & CKD Protection

Olmesartan and CKD Protection, with lowered function, by blunting the spurs of angiotensin II & the RAAS

Many members posting on the MP site have had kidney tests, particularly serum creatinine levels (with derived eGFRs), and been told they face kidney failure. The basis of this conclusion is the use of serum creatinine an indicator of kidney function. High values are assumed to indicate that the kidneys are not effectively performing their function of filtering unwanted compounds from the blood and so may be failing. This can be alarming to patient and medical professional alike because kidney disease is known to be progressive. Hence, chronic kidney disease or CKD. The first thing to note, for those on the MP, is that their kidneys are not as bad as the test results may suggest. Several factors contribute to this conclusion:

Creatinine is not an indicator of toxic uremic metabolites.

Olmesartan raises creatinine by mechanisms independent of kidney function.

IP appears to raise creatinine, and certainly urea.

Olmesartan, and other ARBs, reversibly reduce kidney function by limiting the up- regulatory actions of angiotensin II.

Actions of Angiotensin II

It is sensible to assume that the last factor may be operating as an important contributor to high serum creatinine values because it implies that the kidneys are dependent on being spurred by angiotensinII. This leaves them open to progressive damage if left unprotected from the spur. It is well known that actions of Angiotensin II and the RAAS are major factors in progressive kidney damage in CKD. The best form of protection is high dose olmesartan as used in the MP..

It is also wise to make this assumption because olmesartan is known to affect serum electrolyte levels controlled through kidney function. Table 2, posted below from this publication, showed that olmesartan (sufficient to lower BP to <130/80 or to reduce proteinuria) significantly decreased GFR (measured as 24 hour creatinine clearance) and sodium re-absorption in patients with mild kidney disease (CKD1 or 2)

Table 2: Glomerulotubular balance of sodium before and during ARB treatment

Baseline P Value .A.R.B.
SNa, mmol/l 142 ± 2 0.3 142 ± 2
GFR, ml/min 82 ± 42 0.0006 68 ± 35
Tubular Na load, mmol/day 16,726 ± 8,604 0.0005 13,861 ± 7,169
TNa, mmol/day 16,619 ± 8,598 0.0005 13,744 ± 7,167
UNaV, (mmol/day) 82 ± 42 0.7 118 ± 36

table values are: means ± SD (n = 41). SNa, serum sodium concentration; GFR, glomerular filtration rate; TNa, tubular sodium reabsorption; UNaV, urinary sodium excretion rate.

Critical processes

The affect of olmesartan in suppressing tubular sodium re-absorption is a reason why MP members should, and can safely, maintain a high salt intake. With more severe kidney disease, effects extend to decreased acid and potassium excretion, leading to the possibilities of serum acidosis and hyperkalemia. These conditions should be watched for because they have potential for adverse effects: but are simply corrected..

Critical processes for serum electrolyte regulation occur in the distal region of nephrons under the influence of angiotensin II plus aldosterone . The latter is also dependent on angiotensin II for its secretion. So blocking angiotensin II will weaken these processes. Overall the mechanisms involved include :

  • excretion of potassium in exchange for re-absorption of sodium
  • excretion of acid in exchange for re-absorption of potassium.

Serum acidosis and hyperkalemia

With diminished kidney capacity in CKD and and further limitation by the blocking of angiotensin II these processes may become inadequate. The result is a tendency to serum acidosis and hyperkalemia. Production of ammonia in the proximal tubule of nephrons is also involved in the neutralisation of excreted acid. This provides an additional factor contributing towards a linkage between hyperkalemia and acidosis because high potassium inhibits the ammonia production, potentially initiating a vicious circle.

Most of the reports of hyperkalemia by MP members have shown accompanying acidosis. Acidosis is indicated by subnormal levels of serum bicarbonate, reported as CO2 by US pathology labs. Members reporting these conditions have found that the aberrant values can be moderated by

  • taking extra salt (sodium chloride) to increase the sodium re-absorption load and thus concurrent potassium excretion in the distal nephron
  • and by taking sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) to reduce serum acidosis and thus its contribution to potassium retention

Correction of aberrant electrolyte levels with salt and baking soda.

For one MP member a serum potassium test level of 6.5 mmol/L was down to 4.5 mmol/L within 6 days, with earlier symptomatic relief, using the following regime:

Immediately take 1/2 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) sub-lingually (let it dissolve and disappear in your mouth). Then take 1/2 teaspoon (2g) of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) and 1/2 tsp (3g) of sodium chloride (cooking salt) in 1.5 litres of drinking water daily for a few days. Then drop back to 1/4 tsp baking soda and 1/3 tsp salt. If you get an upset gut you may take the baking soda sub-lingually.

Several members have found that some variant of these regimes has been adequate to keep sodium, potassium and bicarbonate (CO2) tests within range. And for some to allow relaxation of strict avoidance of high potassium foods.

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Notes and comments

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More here: Times Online

_Original Message_
From: TerryM
Date: 2011-02-13 11:21:57
Subject: Re: sodium bicarbonate

Joyful,
In my case it was prescribed by my nephrologist to raise the Enzymatic Carbonate levels of my blood. My blood tends to get acidic.

I have noticed that when the carbonate levels are below 21 mmol/L that my kidney function is not as good as if I keep it up in the 22-25 range. The difference is slight, like only .2 difference in creatinine level, but still every little bit helps.

Since my stomach is a little finicky anyways, I often use alkaseltzer to help dissolve the sodium bicarb tablets completely. I have had no negative effects from the use of sodium bicarb.

As far as my back goes, yes I am recovering. Pain is mostly gone now except when climbing stairs. I am about ready to start on the MP again. I had to put some fat in my diet so I could build some muscles back up. I lost so much weight so fast on the MP that I had lost much of my muscle mass. 

I went from being a 220lb moderately muscled guy down to 128lbs in about 18 months. I still only weigh 145lbs and can't really gain weight. I obviously reset my metabolism with the MP diet. I'm sure over the years it will change again!

 I would recommend that people on the MP make sure they don't lose weight too fast as it causes issue of it's own. If I had it to do all over again that is the only thing I would try to change.

The problem was I didn't have enough muscle to keep my back in place anymore or protect it from injury when I slipped or fell.  And then I kept pulling rib muscles trying to protect my back when I got up out of a chair. It reached a point to where the only way to recover was to enable my body to build muscle again, and unfortunately the body requires some fat in the diet to build muscle. 

The nice thing is my kidney function remained the same or a little better during my break from the MP so I really didn't loose much ground by taking a break.

I'll be cranking my diet back down and starting on antibiotics again soon.

Best wishes,
Terry

_Original Message_
From: Joyful
Date: 2011-02-13 01:04:36
Subject: sodium bicarbonate

Hello Terry.
I hope your back is doing better.

I noticed that you have been using sodium bicarbonate at fairly high doses. Is this for your kidneys?

How did you come to use it and how has it helped?

I wrote an article for the MP KB on using baking soda, but perhaps you would say I was being overly cautious in my wording?

http://mpkb.org/home/othertreatments/sodium_bicarbonate

Thanks! Joyful

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Joyful wrote: There actually is an article on baking soda (NaHCO3) in the KB, but I wrote it before any of Jigsaw's information was available. It would appear that it is not only safe and well-tolerated by our members, it can be helpful for some. (Note to self: update that KB page.)

The page doesn't mention its use against hyperkalemia, and that would be a worthwhile update. So would, for those with disfunctional brains, a warning not to confuse a jar of baking soda with a jar of baking powder.

Jigsaw posted on study site:

http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum43/14870-3.html

Olmesartan and CKD Protection, with lowered function, by blunting the spurs of angiotensin II and the RAAS. Correction of aberrant electrolyte levels with salt and baking soda.

References

1 , 2 de Brito-Ashurst I, Varagunam M, Raftery MJ, Yaqoob MM Bicarbonate supplementation slows progression of CKD and improves nutritional status. J Am Soc Nephrol. 2009;20:2075-84.
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